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Green Church Sunday school lessons – UPDATE

November 12, 2010

Anyone who’s attended any sort of children’s sunday school lesson regularly knows that there’s often 2-3 safe  answers for every lesson question. “Jesus,” “God,” “love”

Theologians have been wrestling with the text and concepts for thousands of years – but in a 2nd grade Sunday school class, well, things get over simplified (sometimes to the detriment of all involved)

In the “church of green”, the answers aren’t “Jesus” or “God” but “AGW” or “climate change”. Unfortunately similar results occur in that “church movement” when you apply an over simplistic answer to a complex question

World’s forests can adapt to climate change, study says

According to a study of ancient rainforests, trees may be hardier than previously thought. Carlos Jaramillo, a scientist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute (STRI)

“What we found was the opposite to what we were expecting: we didn’t find any extinction event [in plants] associated with the increase in temperature, we didn’t find that the precipitation decreased.”

New species of plants, including those from the passionflower and chocolate families, evolved quicker as others became extinct. The study also shows moisture levels did not decrease significantly during the warm period. “It was totally unexpected,” Jaramillo said of the findings

UPDATE: Gee, maybe the guys cited over at Pirates’ Cove  who are all in a tizzy about chocolate production should read this study, eh?

There are times where instead of answering what you think the teacher wants to hear, it makes sense to sit back and think deeply – acknowledging that perhaps it pays to think harder, linger longer in wrestling with an idea and acknowledge the limits on what really is known vs assumed.

The real gem that appears to be overlooked is in the article when linked at Hot Air, reinforces the question I’ve had all along. What evidence do we have from history than the world nearly ended when the world got warmer and the world didn’t adapt or evolve on its own? AGW proponents do believe in evolution, no?

Jaramillo and his team studied pollen grains and other biological indicators of plant life embedded in rocks formed around 56m years ago, during an abrupt period of warming called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. CO2 levels had doubled in 10,000 years and the world was warmer by 3C-5C for 200,000 years.

So, what do fossil fuels & industrialization in the last 150 years have to do with global warming again?

3 Comments leave one →
  1. November 13, 2010 8:58 pm

    It is the funniest thing – on one hand they say “there’s no personal God, everything EVOLVED this way” then next they say “ooooh, we need to stop making Mother Nature angry” then switch to “we can’t control Mother nature, there are some things we can’t figure out” and in the next breath they say “but the world managed to always ADAPT to these changes in climate….” then finish up with a flourish of “WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO SAVE THE WORLD!”
    Do they actually listen to themselves? My answer: as much as a second grader listens to their answers in sunday school. Connecting the dots to see if they all line up apparently doesn’t happen til later….

  2. November 13, 2010 6:42 am

    bwaa ha ha ha. An excellent post with a hilarious comment from Jim as the kicker.

    This is a new argument for me, and one that my simpleton brain can remember: those that believe all the diverse life in this world is the product of evolution, tend to be the same folks that don’t believe the world can evolve/adapt to the CO2 cranked out of our cars and factories the past 100 years.


  3. November 13, 2010 12:04 am

    That leads to the inevitable punchline: “I know the answer is Jesus, but it sure sounds like a squirrel.”

    Or: “I know the answer is those bastard Repbulicans, but it sure sounds like those professors are full of hot air.”

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